Posts by Old Navy

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Need help. Daughter wants to leave org but does not know how.

by Indian Larry in

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friends

long question, but very important.. i can use some help.

my daughter wants out of the organization and i need some advise.. here is my background in a nutshell.

i am fully faded for 10+ years.

Old Navy

Ampbel, where are you now in your "walk?" Are you free at last?

Your story is intriguing. Would you care to elaborate more in your own thread? I believe many here would be interested in hearing the "rest of the story."

Welcome to the group.

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Need help. Daughter wants to leave org but does not know how.

by Indian Larry in

jw
friends

long question, but very important.. i can use some help.

my daughter wants out of the organization and i need some advise.. here is my background in a nutshell.

i am fully faded for 10+ years.

The fear of losing all that we hold dear is one of the strongest powers or controls that The Cult us able to inculcate in the members. Being in the situation you describe for so many is so horribly stressful and debilitating. While in that place all choices that we might normally make seem all wrong. Such is the depth of the programming.

At some point we must muster the determination to break free even though it may mean the temporary loss of those we think of as our "loved ones." The sooner this is done the better but, it is never without consequences. The Cult has made sure of that.

The example of the "prodigal son" makes it quite clear that parents are not able to do much more than set an example of what is good and hope that our offspring eventually regain their senses. As a matter of fact it seems that your daughter has already broken free of the doctrine and dogma but is rendered helpless by emotional ties.

Looks to me that you're doing just what you need to do. I believe that your daughter will in time find the strength to do what she must to break the bonds of emotional deception which are presently holding her hostage. People who are conscientious and loving always have the most difficult time with the process of breaking free. Until they finally realize that their loving thoughts and actions aren't returned with sincerity.

These sorts of experiences, though heart rending and calamitous, are beneficial in the long run to our growth once we work through them. There is light at the end of every tunnel.

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Do You Condemn Anti-Semitism?

by minimus in

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friends

i do .

for me , it’s a nobrainer!.

Old Navy

Quote from Cofty:

They buy into the conspiracy theory that Jews are the hidden power behind capitalism.

The numbers of Jews in America who believe this "conspiracy theory" is quite large and growing. Particularly among the young who are assimilated and question the diplomacy of the State of Israel. They too are appalled by the bad behaviors and question America's seemingly "unquestionable allegiance" and massive foreign aid to Israel while America itself falls into decay.

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Do You Condemn Anti-Semitism?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i do .

for me , it’s a nobrainer!.

Old Navy

I condemn bad behaviors of any nation.

One can only wonder why the State of Israel gets a "pass" on the World stage for its brutalities.

Censorship and loss of Constitutionally guaranteed Free Speech in America is very troubling.

Very few people in Congress dare to speak up.

By the way, what is the now "official" definition of "Anti-Semitism" over there?

Or even, what is a "Semite?"

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Do You Take Any Special Vitamins or Meds That You Would Recommend?

by minimus in

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friends

as we get older , we tend to feel the aches and pains or some tiredness like never before.. i have some friends who are in excellent condition and i’ve asked what their secret was.. some swear by cbd oil as a cure all for aches and localized pain.

greek yogurt is a natural food that can attack gut fat as does taking probiotics.

have you found anything that makes you more energized?

Old Navy

Quote from Brokeback Watchtower:

Also I consume a shit load of THC, CBD, on a regular basis.

I'll drink to the effectiveness of that! Four to six beers each day to keep the kidneys functioning at top capability. I remember as a youth that a Quart of Beer each day was often prescribed by physicians back then for that purpose.

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BREXIT

by ScottyRex in

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friends

as the clock ticks down, i just wish our politicians would get on with it.

i think teresa may has had a bitch of a job in the last couple of years and wish her well.

as a once labour supporter i could not under any circumstance support them again under jeremy corbyn and diane abbot.. i voted out, and do still have hope that the uk will prosper free of europe.

Old Navy

The EU is looking more and more like a Cult itself. It does seem that some of its 'states' are rejecting the mandate for forced immigration such as Hungary, Slovakia, the Czech Republic and Poland.

I certainly hope that the UK manages to break free from EU strangulation.

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Helping your Spouse wake up

by HappyBlessedFree in

has anyone had success in helping your spouse to wake up?

i’m thinking of showing my husband jwfacts.

he is starting to do his own research using wikipedia and google.

Old Navy

Some come to believe that the WTBorg.inc policies of membership and its modern Love of Money are wrong yet cannot ascertain whether their so-called Bible based beliefs are in error.

A site that was very helpful in my case was this one:

L. Ray Smith - Exposing Those Who Contradict

His explanations of things related to the End and Armageddon, the Lake of Fire, prophecies, that the whole World will ultimately be "saved" and more very positive revelations really opened my eyes.

His page is not a religion or a following or a group of any sort; just sensible interpretations of the Bible message.

The Watchtower Cult is terribly wrong with their fear mongering and extreme control as we all know.

Freedom from fear is an amazing relief and healer of the mind.

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Do you think local Govts. tolerate religions / cults such as JW`s simply because of the money they can generate with conventions etc.?

by smiddy3 in

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i`m thinking about major conventions held by jw`s either nationally or internationally .they must be a big boost to the local economy when they are held .. think about the major international conventions held by jw`s over the years .

yankee stadium / polo grounds being one of the major ones ,though its not just confined to the jw`s ,billy graham crusades , and of course the pope`s visits to various countries.. and are they culpable or should they be for promoting these events to occur under there watch ?.

i mean as an extreme illustration or two here would such govts.

Old Navy

All 'governments' in America today are Corporations. Corporations traditionally do not mess with other Corporations no matter what.

WTBorg.inc is in reality a Corporation masquerading as a Religion. Under the Law this affords great flexibility and freedom within its hierarchical structure of private jurisdiction.

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